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Ron5

Outstanding collection of photos & videos. many thanks.

Rick

The white uniforms the ratings wear is outstanding.
( I believe they are #11’s, as #1’s are blues)

Rose Compass

‘No.’ please Rick, not ‘#’ – remember which navy you are talking about! Otherwise yes, all of the tropical whites are outstanding!

Rick

Rose Compass, I thought all the naval uniforms are assigned numbers? Standing orders of the day will specify a number for dress. As an example, 2A’s are gunshirt & blue trousers but no jumper.

gilburton

I believe Rose Compass is referring to the use of “#” is that an american thing?? We say No 1’s or number 1’s

Rick

Okay got it

Rose Compass

Thank you gilburton, you’re spot on. Whilst one should be mindful of the authoritativeness or otherwise of Wikipedia, it is the easiest reference work to reach for, and so I’ll rest my case with this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign#Usage_in_the_United_Kingdom_and_Ireland

Gerry

Why?

Iqbal Ahmed

All this naval willy waving is becoming rather tiresome.

I see that HMS Albion is causing a diplomatic incident in the South China seas by deliberately and provocatively sailing close to the Chinese controlled Paracel islands to dispute Chinese sovereignty. This at a time when we, a fading power, have Imperial outposts like Diego Garcia. I wonder what the Chagossian refugees think about this troubling double standards.

The Chinese are threatening ‘broader consequences’ to UK-Chinese relations at a vulnerable time in our history when we are looking hungrily at other major economies for post Brexit deals.

Today, economic power is the true indicator of a nations wealth, prestige and place in the world. Military power is a byproduct of economic success. We shouldn’t forget the lessons of history.

Sean

Well Iqbal if you are blinkered enough only to judge a nation by its economic success, then Blighty still comes in at number 5
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

Iqbal Ahmed

Sean, deploying an unescorted and virtually unarmed assault ship in disputed waters is a public admission that the emperor has no clothes. An economically vibrant country would arm its forces adequately. A responsible nation would align its military/geopolitical objectives with available resources.

I wonder how far we will fall from 5th spot as a result of Brexit?

Sean

Except it wasn’t “deployed”.
It was simply passing through from those waters from Japan to Vietnam, it’s next stop.
If the Azores claimed ownership of the Atlantic would that mean we should send all shipping and flights to the USA via the North Pole and Canada instead of across the Atlantic?
Yes China has more and bigger armed forces.. but that is the reason why we have international law. To ensure that might does not mean right, and that bullies cannot impose their opinions on others.

Grubbie

I don’t think that the Chinese really care, they know that we’re not a threat.

Dern

This from a man that constantly advocates further disarming the navy lol. The hypocracy is visible to all. As long as it weakens Britain iqbal is for it.

Glenn

Except that there’s a huge difference between any UK overseas possessions and the Spratly Islands and Parcels: legal ownership.

Iqbal Ahmed

Both countries only came by their ‘possessions’ through acts of unilateral imperialism, violence and injustice.

We can hardly argue with the Chinese, given the UK’s shaneful imperial legacy.

Mike

If you believe the UK’s imperial legacy is shamefull, then surely you should be condemning the Chinese for behaving the same way! The democracies of this world need to confront the Chinese before they take over the world and impose their totalitarian control on all of us.

Iqbal Ahmed

You know what? I’m sad that China is doing this. A nation that has suffered so much by being bossed around within living memory and meddled with by powerful nations eg. Boxer Rebellion and Japanese intervention and decides to do the same thing (building artificial islands and occupying East Turkistan and Tibet) now that it is powerful.

However, the remains of the British empire trying to assert influence with yesterday’s technology very far from home and reminding them of the Opium Wars is not the answer to opening up China to co-operate in the international fora.

Meanwhile, we shouldn’t try to overstate our relevance to the world by pointless gestures.

Mike

Totalitarian bullies do not co-operate, sooner or later they have to be confronted.

Rick

Damn those Brits have nothing to be proud of. They only formed the first society with literal laws and trial before imprisonment, created the most spoken language in the world, conquered a quarter of the world’s land forming the largest empire in the world, held an island for hundreds of years without ever being invaded, defeated the Germans not once but twice in separate world wars.
And those fish and chips…. bloody hell they are delish.

Challenger

Please stop using the word ‘we’ to try and encompass those of us who love this country and wish to defend it against your by now rather boring fifth column, wannabe Haw Haw, terrorist sympathizing rhetoric.

I sympathize with the Chagos Islanders and do not agree with the way in which the UK forcibly removed them. However Diego Garcia and the rest of the island chain were and remain internationally recognised as British sovereign territory. Bit different to dumping millions of tons of sand into the sea with the explicit intention of extending your territorial waters/air-space into the neighbours back garden…..

‘Military power is a byproduct of economic success’ Tell that to North Korea!

Don

All this Chinese naval willy waving is becoming rather tiresome. I see that HMS Albion is causing a diplomatic incident in the South China seas by lawfully and legitimately sailing in international waters.

The Chinese are threatening ‘broader consequences’ to UK-Chinese relations as maybe expected.

Today, upholding international rules laws and values is the true indicator of a nations wealth, prestige and place in the world.. We shouldn’t forget the lessons of history.

lian Willis

Would have been an even more impressive thing if our allies had joined us. Imagine if the Albion was escorted by a Dutch and Greek frigate and a Australian destroyer. I guess they all need Chinese trade.

Pen men

Fabulous article which I look forward to reading in greater detail. Well done to everybody who is on this deployment, superb effort.

Michael McGuffin

Great report. Hope the officers and crew are well received and have a great time while in the US.

Iian Willis

One good thing about these photos, practically all the photo close up of the crew show woman officers, pilots and sailors. That reflects positively on the RN and our values as a nation.

Grubbie

Lets hope that the day soon comes that the forces stop the virtue signalling of parading woman,darker skinned people,homosexuals Muslims, Hindus, etc around like trophies.

Rick

Right and when they do that, the people you mention think there special.

Gerry

Really. We have non white people and women. So what?

Grubbie

I was censored for saying that!

Grubbie

Cowardly custards

Gerry

Warning MOD press release. Again why bother? The F35 could have flown to the UK to practice Hundreds of thousands wasted on a pr exercise.

Grubbie

Oh dear, All that PR puff for nothing.It seems that the sailors have let us down on a visit to the US yet again.

Andy

What by doing what sailors have done through the ages with shore leave having a few beers , chase the skirt and have a rumble with the law.
I would feel let down if they failed in time honoured tradition of shore leave.

Grubbie

I have a considerable amount of experience in this field,but I have never had to be tasersed.The story really depends on of the tolerance level of the local cops.The boomer/cocaine event was more serious.

Rick

Agreed, drunken fighting sailors doesn’t bother me in the least.

Grubbie

Full details now published in the Portsmouth evening news complete with mugshots ,embarrassing for those involved, but not really that bad.