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Jon

It’s good that Argus isn’t wasting its long trip and is paying a visit to Cape Town. South Africa is a BRICS country and the more of those we can keep cordial and neutral the better.

Theoden

It was futile and pointless from the beginning. If you want to change the Houthis behaviour the solution lies in Iran. At least in the middle east the current US administration has been a total disaster. They’ve given Iran everything they could ever have wanted in the expectation that they would modify their behaviour. All it’s done is to embolden them and the last 12 months have been the tragic result. The elimination of Soleimani showed the best way to change Iran’s behaviour. When they cause trouble punch them in the face and if necessary keep punching them in the face until they change their behaviour. It’s the only thing that has worked in the last 40 years.

Duker

Israel is the problem my friend, has been since 1948

Sean

I’m surprised you’re just whinging about modern Israel and not about iron-age Israel too…

Your over-simplification also overlooks the conflict between Sunni and Shia branches of Islam, extremism within these branches (Muslim Brotherhood, Al Queda, ISIS, etc) plus the plethora of brutal militaristic dictators; Gadaffi, Saddam, Bashar al-Assad, etc.
Only a complete idiot would blame blame Israel for all this too…

Last edited 27 days ago by Sean
Duker

Judea 2000 yrs back wasnt the only area of conflict . Rome was a equal opportunity annihilator destroying Carthage and Corinth too. Maybe others .

You forgot one extremist group Wahabis- and their offshoots Al Queda, Muslim Brotherhood So Saudis are off your list ?
Dont forget Irgun, Stern, Haganah and Palmach. Is that because they were jewish ?

Sean

There was probably less conflict in Isreal 2,000 years ago, though for a period it was occupied by the Romans. Presumably you blame the Jews for that rather than the Romans…

Had you bothered to read my post you’ll see that I clearly cited Al Queda as a source of violence in the Middle East. But you’ve shown in the past the inability to comprehend posts before replying to them.
So does this means you’re backtracking on your claim that Israel is to blame for all the issues in the Middle East?

No I didn’t mention Irgun, Stern, Haganah and Palmach because you chose to talk about “since 1948”. All these organisations were active before 1948, at which point they were disbanded. Not good on dates either, are you?

Duker

I’m good on dates, you just cherry pick to exclude the terrorists attacking British interests in Palestine and after they left the majority population.
Terrorist and Politician and PM Begin

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Irate Taxpayer (Peter)

Theoden

I made exacty the same key points…

However I first made them in my post of the 14th October 2023 (here on Navy Lookout) – so just a few days after those first attacks by Hamas into Israel on the 7th October 2023.

Last October, I accurately forecast the future:

  • Iran was the key player behind those quite-deliberate attacks on Israeli civilians
  • Israel would, quite soon, massively retaliate against Gaza
  • Soon wars would spread across the reguion – my key phrase was “like wildfire
  • Thus, quite soon, Saudi Arabia would “fall out” diplomatically with Israel (note: they had been about to sign up for an anti-Iranian alliance):
  • And so I explained why that “imminant” Saudi + Israel alliance against Iran was the main reason why those attacks were launched from Gaza on the 7th Oct 2023

Thus, in that same post, I advocated putting a western carrier strike group (very visibly), directly off the coast of Iran = to act as a deterence against the Mad Mullahs thaking any further action.

Had that been done quickly, it probably would have destabilised the ailing Iranian economy = and thus brought their regime down.

Those comments were made one year ago.….

Since then, as we all know, there have been attacks by Iranian proxies all over the Middle East and North Africa – all of which have been stoked-up and supplied by the Mad Mullahs in Tehran

There have even been “border incursions” into Pakistan from Iran (whch I did not forecast)

However, only very recently has a weatern carrier strike group appeared off the coast of Iran (as mentioned by the editor directly above)

Thus, overall, the totally ineffective use of western naval power over the past year has meant that Iran – which was always the prime suspect from day one for backing the 7th october 2023 attacks – has (to date) got clean away with it.

Regards Peter (Irate Taxpayer)

PS Why isn’t Gretha Thumberg campaigning about stopping this huge ecological disaster in the Red Sea …..or is it only me that thinks she is “strangly silent” on this topic these days?

martin

in the first attack what did they hit the tanker with. It looks fairly undamaged to me, not even low in the water. So the only signs of damage are from the explosive charges placed on deck by the terrorist group to film a publicity stunt.

Duker

Their ballistic missiles often are just long range AA missiles with small warheads just fired in a ballistic trajectory

D J

It caused a fire that the crew managed to put out, but resulted in engine failure. Minimal structural damage but no propulsion.