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Theoden

To everyone RN, RM and RFA who has helped keep us safe this year thank you.

Jon

Amen. and Merry Xmas.

Theoden

And a happy new year.

Iain Sanders

All they give a damn about is their ‘feelings’ now.

Hugo

Good think you’re not in charge of recruitment. With the current crew crisis this is probably a good move to ensure crew morale, you cannot force sailors to join the navy, you have to make it a decent experience. And before you suggest conscription, they’ll be even less interested in the job.

Deepsixteen

My daughter was born while I was on Christmas patrol, but it was deep in the final throws of the Cold War and if you do not really need to deploy them so much the better.
It is only really a problem if the opposition is capable of going from cold straight to war and I would say none are as it presently stands

Supportive Bloke

There is some degree of threat from Russia.

And we don’t want their subs wandering around unmarked near critical infrastructure…….

Deepsixteen

I agree but it is not like TTW for Russian forces against any major state player overnight is feasible for them right now.

Deepsixteen

The Christmas patrol is the pits, we should try and make it a short patrol. I remember being extended off one of them, the plus was the delay meant “Travel Direct” delayed my family’s trip to Disney Florida by two weeks and we ended up in the first class section because it was cheaper due to no longer being half term.

Supportive Bloke

Usually sent to do something that sounded very interesting turned out to be ultra boring and pointless to ‘maintain posture’.

Or to do something ‘because’ – the ‘because’ usually seemed to be related to the fact that previous senior officers had been made to do the same.

That said armed forces are 24/7/365 and you can’t have a Christmas shutdown!

Irate Taxpayer (Peter)

Supportive Bloke

Totally agree with the comment that our armed forces must be 365/24/7.

So please remember that “little Israel” has twice been attacked on their key jewish Yom Kippur holiday fesival:

  • once in 1973 by Egypt and Syria: a very conventional, and very big, war
  • exactly fifty years to the day later, by Hamas in 2023: a very unconventional war.

On both occasions the “usually superb” IDF was collectively caught with its trousers and underpants right down; around its ankles.

Thus we cannot let our guard down: however much one wants to be at home for Xmas .

And so several senior officers need to be setting an example = by working (and by being seen to be at work!)

Peter (Irate Taxpayer)