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Duker

The comment about ‘Michelin starred chefs’, while highlighting Norways very selective national service ( only 17% of those 18-19 yr olds are chosen to serve, and 36% are women).
Theres no way just out of high school are they Michelin starred chefs- even the core training is multi year let along the many years extra experience to get the Michelin hat

Rolf

I have served on several Norwegian navy ships and submarines where also top chefs have served their conscription duty. Conscripts in Norway may be in their mid twenties, not necessarily directly out of high school. Of course, given the few Michelin starred restaurants in Norway, hardly any have Michelin star experience, but I can promise you, many of them are highly skilled.

Whale Island Zookeeper

If you had told me 20 odd years ago that the RN would be using Archers to plump out the numbers I would have thought you were losing your marbles.

Fat Bloke on Tour

Why are they borrowing our helicopters?
As in why are they not taking their own?

Or is it more a case that we are borrowing a frigate / flight deck?

Our frigate will be in the shed with a bad case of the vapours after getting some new strike missiles that are tip of the spear spec rather than being the 70’s disco type they are used to?

CompetentGoogler

Norwegian navy is “in between” maritime helicopters having cancelled its NH 90 contract and waiting delivery of the MH60 replacements. We have more helicopters than frigates to put them on, they have an empty hangar, nice bit of mutual cooperation.

Supportive Bloke

Maybe as a part of a very well planned charm offensive to ensure they buy some nice T26 and Merlin to complete their Big Boys ASW set – every grown up country should have one. Gives access to the den and the hideout. Also comes with free use of nuclear umbrella to keep the nasty older bullies like Vlad away – OK it is quite boring under the UK umbrella as you have to listen to Mr Kier droning on about how hard it is going to be – it is better than being under Mr Macaroons umbrella as he gets quite huffy and takes it away if you offend La Dignitee although he seems quite charming to start with.

Last edited 10 days ago by Supportive Bloke
Duker

Norway already has 16 AW101 Merlin either delivered or under order. Im not sure which types are with the Coastguard or the navy or Airforce as the future MH60 seem to be Coastguard too ?

Supportive Bloke

The AW101s they have are not the ASW variant they are coastguard/rescue orientated but in a country that takes defence seriously that can obviously take a military role to add mass.

Duker

Its very confusing as the RNoAF operates choppers for the Army ( Bell 412) Airforce ( AW101) and Navy
The NH90 just withdrawn , were 14 ordered with 8 for the Coastguard and 6 for the navy frigates.

The MH60R new orders (6) are for the Navy frigates.
Images of the NH90 show one in Coastguard colours- Kystvakt but carrying a torpedo.
The Kystvakt seems to have military role as well as ‘search and rescue’.
The ‘Rescue’ AW101 carry Norwegian airforce naming not Coastguard

Esteban

I think the less said about the UK nuclear umbrella the better..

Whale Island Zookeeper

Skywgians are top blokes.

Captain Hector Barbossa

I wonder how the Norwegian Michelin-starred cuisine compares to that of the Russian Rustbucket canteen: https://maps.app.goo.gl/aqsjaSXWotbH7WBZ6

The reviews are pretty good so its a tough act to follow…

Whale Island Zookeeper

Russian navy ships always smell of cabbage. I don’t know why. They just do.

Jim.

Is that the Martlett armed version ?

AlexS

It has the wing for it.

Jim.

Wings lol. Stubs more like !

AlexS

I have read it to have aero propose too.

Sean

Useful for two reasons
(a) Maud will be sailing with CSG2025, so increasing familiarity of operations with RN helicopters beforehand is obviously useful
(b) The Norwegian ASW purchase is to be part of a much larger strategic partnership. Exercises with the RN helps enforce the impression that the U.K. is the obvious choice.

Jim.

A little bit of me thinks that T45’s are wasted being Merlin Capable when in fact they never carry them. Could they not just have the space fore a single Wildcat and use the extra space for VLS ?

Jon

They have the space for two Wildcats. Might come in handy.

Hugo

Better to be compatible with all the navy Helos.

Also they have unused vls space at the front

Junglierating

They do just depends on the role and they have had a double wildcat flight on board in the past

Jimmy Jones

I was told on here by a proper Expert that T45’s have never embarked a single Merlin. In fact I was told off for even suggesting they had !
Can you post some links so that I can see for certain please ?