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Jon

All looking very ship shape, so congrats to Atlas UK.

At one point weren’t these (and the Gib patrol replacements) expected to be built by Safehaven? Was that just rumour or did something happen?

Challenger

Sounds like a really good bit of procurement.

It’s easy to look at the 75 or so commissioned vessels in the Royal Navy and bemoan how it’s shrunk but it’s always worth taking into account that lots of other navies count everything that floats whereas the UK has the RFA, these workboats and the sizeable Serco operated auxiliary service all of which remain separate!

Reaper

And all the Royal Marines craft, must be hundreds. We should include the marines gun/atack boats and landing craft into the figures.

What do people think about the RM losing their hovercraft? Surely very handy and we Should keep them, no/yes??..

X

Yes. Considering the moves being made for the RM it was a surprise.

X

Fantastic company. Super boats.

We just need a sailing vessel now………..
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Reaper

I don’t think they look that great, I’m sure function is great though but I wish they looked a bit more badass.

X

Oh.

Jon

Nice. Thanks for those links.

I see Cutlass is FFBNW a .50 cal, whereas the Archers are FFBNW a 20mm HMG. Do you think we should be worried that the new craft don’t have smaller guns than the P2000s don’t have? 😀

Challenger

To the best of my recollection none of the Archers have had a 20mm fitted despite being designed to take one so I wouldn’t say it’s a problem.

GPMG’s and a .50 cal are perfectly suitable for day to day Gibraltar Squadron tasks.

Reaper

No CIWS and sea ceptor!!!!

Andy a

Cutlas has gpmg, 50 not fitted

Reaper

Are these named?, And we should add them to the total number of RN boats/ships, even if to just make our navy look that bit bigger and more threatening on paper , other navys include these kind of boats in their figures.

Jon

Some of the workboats are, but unlike Magpie they aren’t commissioned
The PTBs for QE are named Swordfish, Buccaneer, Sea Vixen and Sea Harrier.
The first PTBs for PoW is named Walrus and there was a suggestion that the other two might be Ganet and Sea Hawk. I think these were SEA Class built under sub-contract.

Not sure about the OTBs

Badger.

Presumably these are for inshore / sheltered water training with their blunt bows and flat bottoms?

Last edited 23 days ago by Badger.
X

Yes. Paddling around Dartmouth and the south Devon coast.

Badger.

Perfect for that, thanks.

Jon

The pickets they are replacing are riverine these days (although some in the past have been taken cross channel). They’re changing the training regime to take advantage of the enhanced coastal capabilities of these new boats.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2020/december/07/201207-brnc-boats

Last edited 22 days ago by Jon
Duker

Is there an Admirals barge version?