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Black british guy

I’m joining the royal navy. I don’t want kids and I’m not getting married. I will have alot disposal income. I will do the full 22 years.

Frank

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Keithdwat

wut m8??!??

DOCKYARD DAVY

I REMEMBER WHEN DEVONPORT WON THE CONTRACT FROM ROSYTH TO RE -FIT TRIDENT SUBMARINES,THEY WERE ON THE NEWS BREAKING OPEN THE CHAMPAGNE. THEY COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT THE FATE OF ROSYTH DOCKYARD SO WHY SHOULD ANY ONE CARE ABOUT THEM NOW PORTSMOUTH AND FASLANE SHOULD BE ALL THE DOCKYARD’S THAT WE NEED IN THE FUTURE

Dern

1 all caps does not make for easier reading but it does make you look like a knob. 2 So because they dared to celebrate bringing in a contract which would bring prosperity to their constituents they and their constituents deserve punishment?

DOCKYARD DAVY

ROSYTH DOCKYARD WAS STABBED IN THE BACK BY MALCOLM RIFKIND AND THE CONSERVATIVE GOVERMENT OVER THE SUBMARINE RE -FIT CONTRACT ,HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF POUNDS WERE SPENT AT DEVONPORT TO MAKE THE DOCKS READY, I DO NOT REMEMBER THE PUNISHMENT OF THE ROSYTH WORKFORCE BEING MENTIONED, DEVONPORT ALWAY’S GOT LOOKED AFTER. ALSO I AM USING CAPS SO THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO USE YOU’R ROSE TINTED SPECTACLES TO READ THIS

Frank

Dude, lay off the caps or don’t comment at all. It is very annoying. Behave yourself and be courteous and perhaps we can have a civil discussion about this.

DOCKYARD DAVY

O k Frank , I am just a little bitter over the way that Rosyth was treated over the submarine re -fit contract and find it very ironic that Devonport now face an uncertain future as well ,I Believe that R.N. ships will still be re -fitted there but I think that the Naval base has a fight on it’s hands to stay open I have to think that Portsmouth has been favoured for some time and that the writing could be on the card’s to close Devonport Naval base but keep the yard open for re-fitting work as happened at Rosyth. Sadly for Devonport it all begins to look very familiar

David Stephen

There are plenty of ships for all 3 major bases. Carriers, Destroyers, OPVs and type 31s at Portsmouth. Thats 18 ships. Subs and MCMVs at Faslane. That will be 19 ships/boats. LPDs, and Frigates at Devenport. Thats at least 10 ships. There are still 5 survey ships at Devenport as well and 3 LSD and 6 tankers to stash somewhere along with 3 Forts/FSS.

DOCKYARD DAVY

DAVID, I think it is important to separate the ship repair /re-fit side from the naval base,side of things I think that Devonport will alway’s have a role re -fitting naval ships but I think that faslane will be expanded to accommodate more surface ships and the country will then only need two main naval bases , one in the south at Portsmouth and one in the North at Faslane, and please do not forget our expanding presence in the middle east/Bahrain with more ships going to be baseported there . So I think Devonport has a secure future but only as a re -fit yard not as an naval base, I think that a nail in the coffin has to be that our new carriers cannot get into Devonport I think that not being able to access one of our major Naval bases cannot be a good thing

Frank

But do you not think there is some credence so the idea that if Babcock get the contract, than they may well be based in Devonport? It does not seem completely outlandish to me, but I am ready do be convinced otherwise. You seem to know more on the issue, so I am ready to listen.

Dockyard Davy

Babcock also run Faslane Naval base it could be that ships type 31 would be based at Faslane and re-fit at Babcock run Devonport just as nuclear submarines based at Faslane are now re-fitted at Devonport with crews moving back and forth if as is possible that Babcock international build them and obtain a through life maintenance contract and that Bae run Portsmouth re-fit the type 26 built by Bae on the Clyde with a similar through life contract this would make financial sense if Devonport naval base were to close

4thwatch

Does anyone remember Chatham Dockyard? So you see things aren’t all a plot to diminish Scotland’s naval infrastructure. In my opinion the pain has been suffered equally. Chatham built early SSN’s. I think there is enough work now to go round.

DOCKYARD DAVY

I am old enough to remember Chatham closing, in fact I worked with a lot of the workers who transferred up to Rosyth when Chatham closed, they were the salt of the earth, almost all are now retired or have transferred to the great dockyard in the sky.
This country has to get back to being a great shipbuilding nation again before old men like me take our skills to the great Dockyard in the sky, which is why the type 31/26 build program’s are so important. as well as stopping the lunacy of building the fleet solid support ships in a foreign country, Devonport could be well placed to build or part build ships in the future as they have been in the past . Diversification is the key to survival

Pete

Could we create six squadrons of three or four escorts each? Two such squadrons (1 x Type 45, 2 x Type 26 and 1 x Type 31 each) could be based in Portsmouth, as the permanent ‘Carrier Strike Groups’, attached to HMS QE and PoW?

The other four squadrons could all be based at Devonport, and rotate the duties of long deployment overseas, home waters patrols, RM duties etc. I guess BAE is the big halt on this because they want the Type 45s in Portsmouth, but – if they get a big enough piece of the pie in the Type 31, especially – surely it is in their interest not to have everything lumped into Portsmouth?